In our last Marvel post, we discussed which members of the Avengers died in Avengers: Infinity War and what that means for future films in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. In this post, we will discuss which members of the new Ant-Man and the Wasp film got dusted.
Some of you still haven’t seen either film. That’s OK. You can read this non-spoilery post on my upcoming writing projects instead of this post, which contains DEFINITE SPOILERS for Avengers: Infinity War AND Ant-Man and the Wasp, POTENTIAL SPOILERS for pretty much every film afterward, and PROBABLE SPOILERS for any MCU movie you’ve not seen leading up to this.
You’ve been warned.
OK, so let’s get down to it.
Those of us who’ve seen Infinity War, know Thanos won. He snapped his fingers and half the universe became dust in the wind. Then he got away.
In our last two posts, we discussed how the Infinity Snap affected the Guardians of the Galaxy and the Avengers who appeared in Infinity War.
Now, both Clint Barton/Hawkeye and Scott Lang/Ant-Man were MIA during Infinity War. They are mentioned in the film and there was some speculation that he might appear in Ant-Man and the Wasp. While he didn’t appear in the film after alll, let’s take a moment to discuss him anyway.
We know that Clint Barton is working with Nick Fury and Maria Hill, because they mention him in their ill-fated Infinity War end credits scene:
Nick Fury: Still no word from Stark?
Maria Hill: No, not yet. I’m watching every satellite on both hemispheres but still nothing.
[Hill receives three beeps from her device.]
Nick Fury: What is it?
Maria Hill: It’s multiple bogeys over Wakanda.
Nick Fury: Same energy signature as New York?
Maria Hill: 10 times bigger.
Nick Fury: Tell Clint we’ll meet him…
[Suddenly, a car crashes into them; Hill goes over to check on the driver of the car, but sees no one in there]
Both Hawkeye and Ant-Man are also mentioned earlier in Infinity War.
Bruce Banner: We need all hands on deck, where’s Clint?”
Natasha Romanoff: After the whole Accords situation, he and Scott took a deal, it was too tough on their families, they’re on house arrest.
Bruce Banner: Who’s Scott?
Steve Rogers: Ant-Man.
Bruce Banner: There’s an Ant-Man and a Spider-Man?
So we know they both took plea deals and were placed on house arrest. Scott Lang was on house arrest for two years in the wake of the events of Civil War.
It really doesn’t look like Clint Barton technically stayed on house arrest if he’s working with Maria Hill and Nick Fury. Of course, it’s also possible that they let him free early considering what was going down in Wakanda. In any case, we do not know yet if Barton was dusted; however, plot-wise, I find it unlikely.
Concerning Hawkeye’s Infinity War absence, Joe Russo explained to rabid fans:
“We did not forget the twice-nominated Jeremy Renner. We cooked up a story for him that is a little bit of a long play. Not a short play.”
Jeremy Renner has certainly been seen on the set during the back-to-back Infinity War/Avengers 4 filming; by process of elimination, that means he’s in Avengers 4. He is also confirmed as a cast member of Avengers 4 on IMDB and has appeared in possibly leaked art from the film.
Team Ant-Man Knocked Down To Size
In the first end credits scene of Ant-Man and the Wasp, Ant-Man goes into the Quantum Realm to collect some of that healing Quantum Energy that the once-villainous Ghost needs to stay alive. Just as he finishes up, his radio goes silent. The scene cuts back to where Hank Pym, Hope Van Dyne and the only-just-recently-rescued-from-the-Quantum-Realm Janet Van Dyne were standing, monitoring his progress. Three piles of Infinity Dust.
Janet Van Dyne/O.G. Wasp
The original Wasp is the film’s ultimate Macguffin, so it was hard to see Janet get dusted. I honestly didn’t think she would suffer the Snap.
She isn’t likely to stay that way. Michelle Pfeiffer is listed as an official cast member of Avengers 4 on IMDB.
In any case, The Independent reported that at Ace ComiCon, Sebastian Stan confirmed that an “Every Avenger” scene was filmed:
“There was one day we were on set and were doing this scene that’s in the trailer where we’re all running to battle, you know, all of us are on set and it’s like forty superheroes.”
More than person has noted that we were trailer trashed where it concerns that massive scene where the Avengers rush into battle in Wakanda alongside the Hulk. The Hulk never showed in Wakanda during Infinity War, despite Banner’s best intentions. Apparently, getting hit with the Power Stone one time too many has made Hulk reluctant to reappear! Could that iconic scene be one that actually appears later in Avengers 4 after our heroes are resurrected somehow? Maybe heroes like Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch get one last shot at Thanos through the working of the Reality Stone. I dunno.
Stan also told the Independent:
“There was one scene, I think, we had where everybody was there. I can’t really talk about that scene, but I knew it took them three months in planning this scene to have everyone there. You look around and you just saw everyone from Samuel L. Jackson to Michael Douglas to Michelle Pfeiffer. Everybody was there.”
I just want to see that “Every Avenger” scene if it exists, and name dropping Douglas and Pfeiffer when they weren’t in Infinity War makes it possible that he was referring to a scene from Avengers 4.
Hank Pym/O.G. Ant-Man
Of everyone I expected to survive the Snap, Hank Pym was not really on my list. I really did think he’d get dusted. I supposed it would be the impetus to get Ant-Man and both Wasps to join forces with the Avengers to reverse the Snap.
Michael Douglas is not yet confirmed for Avengers 4, but, again, Sebastian Stan did mention him by name as part of that Every Avengers scene.
Hope Van Dyne/Wasp
This one shocked me only slightly less as the fact that her mother was dusted. Honestly, there was a time when I thought Janet Van Dyne and Ant-Man would team up with the Avengers to reverse the Snap with Hope and Hank as its victims.
Evangeline Lilly is at the top of the confirmed cast list at IMDB, so I’m interested to see how this plays out.
Scott Lang survives the Infinity Snap but is now trapped in the Quantum Realm!
Paul Rudd is a confirmed cast member for Avengers 4 on IMDB and has been seen on set with Chris Evans, Mark Ruffalo and Robert Downey, Jr. They appear to be back in time during the Battle of New York from the first Avengers movie. Likewise, a beardless and younger(?) Captain America is wearing his costume from that film, but Tony Stark appears older and is wearing a Shield uniform. Obviously, Ant-Man was not involved in the Battle of New York because Scott Lang had not yet become Ant-Man. The whole thing smacks of a convergence of characters from alternate timelines.
What makes this interesting is that just before Scott Lang enters the Quantum Realm to collect healing quantum particles for Ghost during the mid-credits scene, Janet Van Dyne warns him not to “get sucked into a time vortex.”
Unfortunately, now that Scott is trapped in the Quantum Realm, he doesn’t have a lot of options. That “time vortex” might be his only option, and it may explain how Scott Lang gets out to that Avengers 4 set with his anachronistic pals.
In our next Avengers post, we’ll look at that allegedly leaked promotional artwork for Avengers 4 and what it means for the rest of our heroes.